December 2020 Homework Question

[the10kclub]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[edy]

Preflop:

Flop:


The Button's betting range is narrow, and the draws are weak. So he has no raising range.




TURN:

Facing a jam:

[trent walker]

Preflop:


Flop:


Turn:
I dont think I would be betting 3bb into a 13.5bb pot in game, but I havnt reached the turn in the MC yet. I would be calling the jam with QTs and would fold the A2s

[vic.cruzr]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

A lot of value hands - not enough bluff hands. I'll just check through.

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[SeanT]

Hi Vic. Looks like you made a mistake on your dead cards. You have the Jd as a dead card on the flop but it doesn't come out until the turn. So T9s is actually a gutshot on the flop not a premium hand.

[Scotty]

Vic, On the flop you write: "A lot of value hands - not enough bluff hands. I'll just check through," but you can't check through on the flop. The LJ bet 3.5 so you need to decide which hands you're folding and which you're calling before you see the Jd turn. By "check through" do you mean you're calling your whole range on the flop, even 6h7h and 6c7c?

On the turn, you're betting As7s-As5s & 6s7s. Do you also want to be your Ad7d-Ad5d & 6d7d?

Lastly, you're folding QsTs to the all in. It's top pair, bad kicker, but it's also a Q-high flush draw as well. Do you really want to fold that for 11.5bb into a pot that will be 41.5bb if you call?

Things to consider before Monday.

[Dilly]

Haven't studied 20BB at all so this could very well be totally off base.

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

• Adapted from GTO charts, same frequency of all in and call, consolidated some mixed frequency combos.

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

• I think we have a range and nut disadvantage here. Running GTO chart LJ open range against our range we're ~46% on this board.Think we need to call as above which is at MDF.

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

• 40% of our range is TP+, I think we bet range here. Our middle pairs are also probably good at this depth for value.

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

• We need ~27% Eq to profitably call, this is defending at MDF.
• Depending on Villain's strategy it may be close for some of these combos, but gutshots with flush draws, pairs with flushdraws, middle and top pair + should be good enough.

Very interested to see some answers from people who have actually studied this!

[Scotty]

Your final chart shows you folding Ad8d (3rd pair, A kicker, A-high flush draw) but calling with 8d7d (3rd pair, 7 kicker, 8-high flush draw). Surely you should call Ad8d before you call 8d7d, right?

The Ad8d you're folding is also superior to the Ad9d you're calling. It beats more of LJ's bluffs with it's marginally made 3rd pair and also has more outs to improve, i.e. 5 outs to 2-pair or trips vs. 4 outs to the one card straight.

[Dilly]

Yeah that all seems correct, appreciate the input

[lfap]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[kkep]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?





Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Since the V polarized his flop bet I don't want to raise my best draws IP as the raise size would likely have to be all-in? Or do we get to raise it up to 8.5BB and just call it off when he jams? We would certainly have enough equity.

Work in progress -






Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

I don't know if I'm over thinking this or not but I don't love my AA and KK but I also think with a short stack we almost have to go with them. However this board is just so dynamic and good for the V's range I decided to just bet with 1 combo of each which unblock the Heart and Diamond draws.













Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[st3vemac]

Tournament Competent Opponents 20bb on the BTN, LJ raises to 2bb.

Strategy:

PREFLOP

[fasteddief]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

My initial range will look like this: I will be raising with some premium hands and some that are not quite good enough to call with. I will be flatting AA, due to the SB and BB may raise and try to use the squeeze, then I can re-jam and get it in. If I get raised from the SB or BB, have to re-evaluate.



Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

I will be raising All in with the following range and calling hands that have the potential to improve on the turn. That will still leave me 14.5 BB after this call. If I am all in, well the poker gods now have the hand!





Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

So I have only called with the following range. Some nut draws and some marginal hands. I would have raised with the premium hands, so I took them out of my calling range here.



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

Here is what I am calling the all-in with. With only 8 BB left, I would have to do this:

[Scotty]

When you do your preflop chart you want to include your raising range as well as your calling range. Same with the post-flop and turn ranges. Just include your other actions (raises and folds) in other colors. The Range analyser tool has standard colors and actions available in the "Standard Labels" popup menu located just below the "Clear Hand Grid" button.

[fasteddief]

I had not finished the question until today 12/14. Wanted to get some study time in with the master class. Still earning though!

[McLovin]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Choosing to keep AA in the flatting range since we're IP and the effective stack is pretty short.

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

This flop is pretty uncoordinated so I'm choosing not to have a raising range.

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Betting a fairly balanced mix of premiums and draws.

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

After he jams you have to call 11.5BB to win 31BB, so MDF is 19.5 / (11.5 + 19.5) = 63%. We've got a strong enough range here to make that easy.

The thing I'm not certain of is how strong my draw needs to be to call it off here. I decided that I wasn't going to fold a 12-out draw or better but I'm not sure if that's the correct place to draw the line. I also don't love bet/calling it off with KQ. Bet/folding KQ isn't an option so perhaps that should be in the checking range?

[SeanT]

PREFLOP
LJ RFI Range

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

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FLOP
Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?


TURN
Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?


Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[RealJPB]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

I'm either calling or jamming:



Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

MDF should be 70%, so I could even fold a little more. Raising with some Qx (but not KQ as it needs less protection) and some bluffs.



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

We only need ~27% equity when he jams so in a chip EV / non-ICM environment I think I'm just flicking in the hands that have enough outs.

[Martin]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[GinDC]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?


Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

After betting on the turn, I have 11.5 BB in my stack and there is 15.5 in the pot. Therefore, MDF = 1 – (11.5 / 11.5 + 15.5) = 57%. I’m calling 50%. It's tempting to reason that I'm getting almost sufficient pot odds to call everything in my range, i.e., I need to bet 11.5 to win 40. But I don't see a reason to make that high variance play because this range allows me to defend very close to MDF.

[Scotty]

GinDC, You and I got different answers for the MDF on V's river shove. You used 11.5bb as the BET in the formula 1-BET/(BET+POT), and I used 14.5 as the BET. I think you need to use 14.5 b/c the MDF depends on what V would be risking making the play with any two cards, not what you're risking by calling. I could be wrong about this. On Monday, I'm going to try to ask JL which is correct.

[ptp378]

Ready soon

[MichelG]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


I raise 9% of hands and call 10% - using 5BB raise with my strongest hands, and all in with a mix of pairs and weaker hands.
I call with AA and KK to perhaps induce an all in bet from the blinds and strengthen my flat calling range.

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

The pot on the flop is 5.5BB. He bets 3.5BB into it so the MDF = 1 - (3.5/9) = 61%

This flop does not connect that well with the raiser range. He however Cbets large at 60% of the pot, likely with a polarized range.

Here is my strategy - I defend 70%, not quite enough draws compared to my premium set hands. I call with the non spade suited KJ, KT, K9. Not sure if I should call the low pairs or just give up with them - he is unlikely to have a two so they are probably worthless except for future equity.


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

He checks on this card that could bring a straight. I bet my straight draws and my two pair hands but do a majority of checking back - my entire checking range is at least one pair so in good shape. We have 14.5BB stacks and a 12.5 BB pot. I bet small, a quarter of the pot, around 3BB.




Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

When he goes all in on top of my bet I call with my top two pair (3 combinations), and folds the straight draws. I assume he has a mix of draws and top pair or better hands - he has all the stronger kicker queen hands, and possibly some QJ, and still some spade draws.

My two pair is probably in the middle of his range, so expect around 50% of win at showdown.

[Raddad_101213]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?
(Pot 8BB assuming ante)


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?
(Pot 15BB)

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy
(Total Pot 32.5BB) MDF is 1-14.5/(14.5+18) = 56%
I had to put 77 as a call to exceed 56% which im not too thrilled about lol

[Scotty]

I think your MDF calculation on the river shove is incorrect. I think it should be: 1-14.5/(15.5+14.5)=52% not 1-14.5/(14.5+18)=56%.
I think the POT at that point is 2(PreFlopBet)+2(PreFlopCall)+0.5(SmallBlind)+1(Big Blind)+3.5(FlopBet)+3.5(FlopCall)+3(TurnBet)=15.5 not 18.

[Raddad_101213]

i was assumming ante which could be incorrect

[David]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?
Pot- 5.5BB
MDF- 61%
142 combos to the flop, 132 after removal



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?
Pot- 12.5BB
88 combos to turn, 85 combos after card removal





Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?
43 combos
pot- 15.5BB,
11.5BB to win a total pot of 41.5BB
pot odds- 27.7%

[lpm]

[bengoshidesu]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?





Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

The pot is 6.5bb. The 3.5bb bet will grow the pot to 13.5bb, if I call, leaving just over a pot-size bet (14.5bb) behind. LJ has a slight range advantage & a bigger nut-advantage. LJ should be betting at a medium frequency in a medium amount. If I raise (All-In) with my best hands and draws, I will leave my marginal hands very unprotected when I check behind. Accordingly, I will have no raising range on this flop in this position.



15 Un-paired non-spade Axs below ATs are added to junk.
6 K-high w/o the fd are added to junk.
3 76s w/o the fd are added to junk.

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

The pot is 13.5bb. The Jd likely gives me the range advantage, but LJ still has the nut advantage with more 2pr, & lots of sets and overpairs that I don't have. With only ~ a pot-size bet behind, I don't need to grow the pot to get all-in by the river. I will bet small with mostly premium holdings and some low-equity bluffs. I would expect LJ to check this turn often, while they have lots of marginal hands (including draws that just made a pair) premium hands and draws are likely still in their range, too. I can't bet too many hands or I open myself up to being easily x-raise bluffed. I will x behind with marginal hands and my draws that have a decent amount of equity, bluffing instead with lower-equity hands.



4 ATs & A2s w/o the fd are added to Bluffs.
6 ATo w/o As or Ad are added to junk.


Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

LJ is risking 14.5 to win 31 with his bluffs, so MDF here is ~53%. [Re-think turn to include some strong 12-out draws I can call the x-raise with, rather than the gutter+1 over that I can't... This is especially important if LJ x-raises smaller & I need to call with more than just my premium hands].

[JimB]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

(NOTE: for some reason "creating an image as a PNG" is cutting off my count column) I'll send a note to support.

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

NOTE: moved 67 cards to junk




Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

Here I’m calling off with 2pr or better and the KTs which has a million outs (as long as he doesn’t have the ace – but just too much equity to fold in this spot – have to figure an ace or 9 is good).

[Sandy Leggett]

20bb eff., LJ rfi 2bb, we're on BT, we call

kay

GTO preflop says we call w/ this:



this isn't wide enough, we end up having a weak range (one that can't defend at mdf) on a lot of boards. we need to add some crappy stuff, and call with hands that we're more likely to jam with. so, this should be our range:

44 should be a call, that's a typo. you can add a2s and k7s if you really want, but this'll do.


flop is Qd8s2s

lj is looking good on this board:




this is our range and what we do with it:


we call w/ everything, since the lj range is going to be strong on this board texture. i think we'd raise w/ 22, but that's about it. 98 and 87 are marginal made hands, but w/ the spade or diamond, we're playing them as draws.

turn is Jd, opp checks w/ all air they're giving up with, marginal made hands, and hands they plan on check-raising, so this check doesn't actually tell us anything

our range hasn't really changed, since we've called with almost everything:



when we bet, our range actually isn't too bad. we set up our range to have board coverage on boards like the one preflop.

so, when our villain comes over the top, we can defend at the MDF just fine, w/ a good range too:



so, goodie.

[kkep]

You don't have the Jd card removal in your river betting range and you lost the nuts T9s in your bet call range.

[PoorRaven]

"In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?"

"Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?"

Because I'm in position and spr is low, I decided to have no raising range.

"Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?"

Check back flushdraws so that they realize all of their equity.

"Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?"

MDF is 11,5/31= 37%. Calling with a straight, AA, KK, Q+flushdraw

[Gambit]

Benno

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?






Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

It could be a good idea to just call with my draws and AA,AQ to keep him in the pot.I could raise with AQ,AA and 88 and the draws like Axs,KTs,K9s,and J9s.... But I think the way that he put his stack in is to just call



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[drk]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Using the PC GTO app, I came up with this implementable range which has at the right frequencies: all in 8%, call 10.3%, and fold 81.7%:




Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?



Playing a fundamentally solid GTO preflop range, we are at a severe range and nut disadvantage. While we have a number of good bluffs, we have zero two pair or better hands. Therefore, I'm only going to call or fold. I'm continuing with all of my 2nd pair or better, flush draws, my combo badckdoor flush/straight draws and gutshots. Minimum defense frequency is 65%, and this puts us close.


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Pot is now 13.5 and we have 14.5bbs left in our stack for just above a 1SPR. The board is extremely draw heavy and a lot of bad river cards can come. So I'm going to jam my condensed range of top pair or better and best draws, and bet small with my top pair Q with draws that I can call off with and my one nut hand. Since that's not many hands I don't need many bluffs, so I picked 78s to protect/fold out any junk in villain's range and 76s flush draws, both of which I'm folding to a jam.




Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

Calling my Qs and better and folding the bluffs/3rd pair.

[Donn Pattinson]

Working on Homework:

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy

[Anavar]

Btn Vs LJ RFI (20bb eff)



We call and see a flop of Qd8s2s, and the LJ bets 3.5 into the 6.5bb pot(bet,call,SB,BB,BB ante)

We will be jamming KK, all of our unpaired, suited spades combos which are A5-A7,KJ-K9,J9 and T9

We will be calling all top pair combos, AA , AQs-A8s, 98s and 66

We will be folding KJo, 44 , 55 , all non spade A8s-A5s, KXs , J9s and T9s




We call the flop bet and get the Jd turn. We now have a roughly 1:1 SPR and we're gonna jam all top pairs

and AA, and check the rest .

[Larry H]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?



Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[Brendy_83]

Hey,

This is my very first homework assignment. I didn't consult any ranges before I completed it. I'm sure its not a great answer but I did enjoy working through the hand. My reshove hands by stack size is definitely something I need to fine tune.

On flop and turn aces should be premium.

Interested to have a look at how my answer compares to others. Preflop I decided if I was shoving as a bluff I wanted mostly hands with good blockers that weren't good enough to call. For my calls I used hands I couldn't fold and didn't want to jam and included aces (sometimes maybe I'll call kings also to protect my calling ranges if I think the villain is agro but folds to aggression.) The more he is raising the less I will RR with K's.

On deciding whether to call teh river shove I worked out I needed 28% equity which was most of my good draws ( Flush and gutter )

Let me know what you think.

Regards

Brendan


ACES ARE PREMIUM

[trocque]

Question:
In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?
Missing couple pieces of information, I think, but kind of nit picking – what is effective stack between LJ, SB, BB? Most importantly BB as that’s who villain should be figuring for effective stack size when opening – realizing hero could be jamming some portion of range. Also, what stage in the tournament? Late stages or early? Assumed ~20bb effective stacks, not in late stages of tournament.



Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?
Hero stack: 20-2-3.5=14.5-3=11.5
Pot: 2+2+1+0.5+0.5+3.5+3.5=13+3=16+14.5=30.5 after LJ jam
11.5 to call to win 30.5+11.5 = 42
11.5 / 42 = 27.4%
With flush draw, have 9 /46 = 19.6% when we need 27.4% - if Ace is an out, we have 12/46=26% - other small possibility is that our ace high flush draw sometimes beats other draws? Not sure given the pots odds presented to hero that villain should be bluffing at all here, so maybe our A high is never good? Bottom line, we’re about breakeven to call if when we’re drawing to the nuts in a spot where we’re looking to double up to build a stack.

[Sketch]

Preflop, with us being at 20bbs we should still have some 3 bet hands in our range that we can face a shove with-especially with our opponent being competent, we don't want to stray too far into tight or wide ranges. I errored on the side of the 25BB GTO charts, not sure if I should have chose a middle ground between the 25bb and 15bb charts.



Against a Cbet, we are going to raise with our top pair hands, call with our draws and marginal made hands:
On the turn check, we're looking to check back our weaker pairs and any junk, and bet our top pairs, two pairs, and draws.

After betting the turn, suppose we bet small, like 1/3 pot, we will have about ~10bb left in a ~14bb pot before he goes all in, I think we have to call with all of our hands we're betting with getting a good price.

[Xubarubas]

flatting Aces and Kings to allow reshoves on 20bb effective, also protect the flatting range with these hands that arent that vulnerable,

on the flop Qd8s2s, when the LJ Cbets i like to move in with KK, KQo, and some premium draws, and 76 spades, KK needs some protection,J9 T9 are very good equity hands with no showdown value, and 76 of spades feels too bad calling on the flop and facing turn pressure.

On the turn some of our bottom pairs turn a FD, and i believe they are great check backs, i like to check back flushdraws with showdown value here too, but we bet our AT and A9 flushdraws that block a lot of the LJ check raising range, and we then fold them to a shove, calling off with all pairs that bet turn

I just notice i left JTs out of the range, looking back, i should add these 2 JTs and JTd combos to my flop raises, and the other 2 combos become flop calls, and on the turn the remaining 2 combos of JTs are fine to check back

Thank you, sorry if i took too long on this response, its my first homework response, would love some feedback.

Have a good day

[PokerShaman]

I am going to assume that we are far from the bubble, so that ICM issues are not a concern. I am also assuming that there are antes worth 1bb in the pot before the hand begins.

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

The villain is "competent," but otherwise undescribed. Let's start with the PCC GTO charts. I am giving the villain a 20% opening range very close to that of the 20bb LJ RFI chart, rendered "implementable" by not having any mixed strategies for any combo.


We can fold, we can flat-call, or we can shove all-in.

We want to value-shove with hands that have good equity against the villain's continuing range that at the same time whose equity we do not want to be blown off of in post-flop play. We want bluffs in our range, and we want these bluffs to block the villain's strogest hands (AA and KK) and at the same time have good equity versus the rest of the villain's calling range.

We want our calling range to be value hands only -- we can't bluff by calling -- which play well post-flop.

Let's respond to the villain by using the BTN vs LJ RFI chart as a starting point, again rendered implementable by not mixing any strategies.

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

The pot contains 5.5bb. LJ's 3.5bb lead is a larger bet, a polarizing size. Here is my stab at a flop strategy for the villain, where they bet overpairs, two pair, and sets, flush draws, backdoor nut flushes, and combos with both backdoor flush and straight potential. There are slightly more than two bluffs for every value hand in this range



We should consider responding with a polarized raising range ourselves. But notice that the villain has all the QQ and 88 in their range and we do not have any. We and the villain alike have KK and AA in our ranges. The villain has Q8s and we do not. The villain has a significant nut advantage here, and the top of our range is rather weaker than the top of theirs.

We have draws to the nuts in our range (nut flush draws, gutshots), but we do not have nutted made hands. I think we should keep our range condensed (and the villain's range wider) by flatting our entire continuing range.

I am including "premium" hands (overpairs), and marginal made hands (8X and QX hands.. I am including with the draws flush draws, gutshots, and some combos with both backdoor flush and straight potential, to give us some more leeway to float on the turn. As it happens, MDF for LJ's bet sizing is 61% and we are actually defending 53%, but this is not a consideration in the shaping of our range.

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

The pot now contains 12.5bb. The interesting thing about this turn card is that it presents the hero now has two nutted combos in our range, Td9d and Ts9s for a turned nut straight. The villain in the lowjack has these combos in their range too, as well as QQ and 88 for sets and Q8s for two pair. LJ continues to have the nut advantage, but this advantage has been diminished slightly.

I am having the villain check-jam for value with sets and straights, check-jam bluff with AsTd and As9d (which block hero from having Td9d), value-bet overpairs and two pair, bluff-bet both spade and diamond nut flus draws, and check weaker pairs and flush draws, giving up on the latter if hero bets. I am also treating AKo as a marginal made hand.



Hero can certainly bet our Ts9s and Td9d with the nut straight. We also have AA and KK combos with which to consider betting for value, hoping to get calls from QX and JX combos (but my assumptions have no QX in the villain's range on this branch of the game tree).

I am going to bet with straights and AA, and treat KK as a marginal made hand. I am balancing this with the better flushdraw+gutshot combos and a couple of nut spade draws.

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

The pot now contains 18.5bb and we are facing an additional bet of 11.5bb. Our required equity to call is 27.7%. We are overfolding if we fold more than 61% of the time.

After picking and choosing with Equilab against the range I have assigned to the villain, the hands I want to call with are {Td9d, Ts9s, AdTd, AsTs, Ad9d, As9s, Kd9d, Ks9s}, our nut straights and flush draw hands that block the villain's straight combos. (We cannot at this point block their set combos.) This range has 37% equity against a range of {QQ, 88, Td9d, Ts9s} and is one combo short of the requisite MDF.

[catfishwizard]

My 20BB BTN defense vs LJ open is just a hair tighter than the GTO chart (jam 8.0%, call 10.4%):

Trapping with AA, KK because at this stack depth there’s plenty of time to get it all in by river. Calling with smaller pairs because if we jam and get called they’re not in GREAT shape so we’re hoping to flop a set.


Basically jamming with a “split range”




FLOP 5.5BB pot, 18BB effective: Q♦-8♠-2♠ - 3.5BB (63% of pot) C-Bet from LJ

MDF is 72%! Fortunately this range is strong enough on this board, that’s not too much of a stretch, although I do have to make some “uncomfortable” plays to get there.


My tendency is probably to overfold in this spot (I’m prone to tighten up with 18BB behind in a tourney), but I think population is C-betting a little too frequently here if anything, which means I need to stretch to find at least MDF for continuation.






The “uncomfortable” calls for me are Ax of diamonds.

The “uncomfortable” bluffs are the back-door flush draws.


I chose to strengthen calling range with AA and KK because they don’t really need protection.


I chose to raise with the nut flush draws that also had backdoor broadway straight potential (AJs and ATs). Logic is that I think I can call those down if I get jammed on (extra equity). I wanted to have some strong flush draws in my calling range, so just called the lower Ax spades.


TURN 12.5BB pot: 14.5BB effective: (Q♦-8♠-2♠) - J♦ - LJ checks to you


AA and KK want to make draws pay. I’m tempted to check some of my Queens, but the 4 combos I have are incredibly strong with straight redraws, so I feel okay going with them.





TURN 27BB pot: 11.5BB behind: (Q♦-8♠-2♠) - J♦ - LJ check raises all in


11.5 to win 38 means you can fold 30% of your range, which is 6-7 combos at this point.


Fold diamond draws because it blocks the obvious bluffs he turned with the Jd. Call everything else, which is either an overpair, or top pair with a redraw to the straight.




This is overcalling by 3% but oh well. I’m not folding any of these “premium” hands here.

[Scotty]

You might want to recheck your MDF calculation on the flop. I get 61% not 72%. Here's my calculation:
MDF=1-B/(P+B)=1-3.5/(5.5+3.5)=61%

[Billy poker]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Calling across my range except for junk, due to a low stack to pot ratio meaning I can easily get all the chips in by the river.


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Draws are bet not checked as stated in diagram.


Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

Basically not folding to the all in with 10bb left

[JFletch2323]

I am a new Black Friday Sale Subscriber, so this is my first assignment. I did it without reading any of the other responses. I had a lot of trouble with it because I think that's a preflop spot where I'm not really going to be calling many hands, with that stack size. I am going to be either raising or folding. So since the assignment was based on a call, I didn't have that many hands to work with, so it was hard to get the ratios right.

Here goes...

[capoccij]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Using the BTN vs LJ 20bb GTO chart, I would defend using this strategy. I elected to go all-in with QJs and call with QTs since they are all-in/call some portion of the time. I did this for a few other hands that have all-in/call some portion of the time. Mainly, going all in with A4s and calling with A3s, going all in with 44, but calling 55 and 66, and shrinking my suited connectors to call with T9s, 98s, 87s, and fold 76s, 65s, 54s.


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?


I elected to flat with my strongest hands to allow villain to continue betting on the turn. This might be a bad strategy, but with overpairs and hands with a lot of equity, I don’t see the need to c/r. I actually think this is a decent flop to call with my entire range and see what develops on the turn. When I first started balancing my range, I noticed I had too much junk and not enough draws. To stay balanced, I am calling with all backdoor straight draws (AJs, A5s, A3s) and backdoor diamond draws. This was a tough flop to balance. I could still add more draws to be at 2:1 draws to premium on the flop, but I don’t want to then have too much junk on the turn.


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?


I am betting with strong top pairs and better, strong draws, and combo draws. I debated betting all hands with a T or 9, as this would still keep my range balanced and it would block their check/jamming as bluffs since I have a relevant blockers, but I do not want to have to bet/fold to a c/r jam, though that will happen with some draws.


Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?






I believe MDF here is 30%. I found myself calling with pairs+flush draws and these marginal hands like A8d and AJs, should probably be folded to an all-in. Though I am not sure because we have 9 outs to the flush (7 if we take away the board pairing), and maybe we win if we hit the Ace or the 8/Jack giving us additional equity. I am folding all other draws to the all-in. I went back and forth with QTs and KQo. If I fold both of them I am defending 41% of the time. Obviously I can defend more than MDF, but 68% seems like I would be over-calling and calling with these has me defending 68%. I think QTs should probably call here but QTc/h should be folded. Does it make more sense to call with my marginal hands with additional equity to the nuts as opposed to my top pair strong/marginal kicker? I think all of these hands still have 30% equity vs the opening range given to villain in this situation. Tough spot. Looking forward to seeing the most profitable play here.

[M R]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?




Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?


I'll call with QJ (2-pair). I need to put in my remaining 11.5 bb to win 41.5 bb, so I need at least 27% to call. I'm only getting about 18% with the flush draws. Even QTd, QTs, Q9d, Q9s, are only around 28%, assuming QQQ, or two pair would be good.

[JoakoGambler]

Preflop:

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?



Flop:

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?



Turn

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?


Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[fredo210]

Pre-flop you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?




Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?




Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[stowesy]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?


Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[Lod]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

"PokerCoaching GTO PreFlop Charts"



Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

My opponent has a slight range advantage and a large top end nut advantage on this flop. Since I have very few premium hands and I'll be in position throughout this hand, I'm going to call with my entire continuing range.



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?




Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[nwbarracuda]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[epcharles]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

I start leaning towards linear ranges at 20bb, raise to 10bb -> call a shove, or call, no weak bets. (I know thi is closer to the 10 or 12bb charts.)


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Still mostly linear (raise all-in with top pair, sets, and with 3 to straight flush), call any other pairs



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

All hands are now marginal made hands with showdown value. Check back range.



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

I'm going to assume I bet due to some sort of live read gone wrong, which means I could have done that will the full range. At this point I need to pay 14.5bb to try to win 26.5bb, so I need about 45% equity to call. None of my hands have odds to call. Admit you made a bad read, fold range, and save the 14.5bb to fight another day. You don't need a fight everywhere.


If you think your opponent is check-raise heavy, you could call with top pair and the back-door diamond draw... Which are your highest equity hands... but I'd rather not risk my tournament life on it...

[slacker]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?
pot 6.5bb, mdf 65% (pot/(pot+bet) 6.5/10), rng & nut disadv call with all continuing hands




Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?
pot 13.5bb,

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?
pot after my bet 16.5bb he bets his remaining stack 14.5bb so 16.5/31=53% mdf
he shoves for val w/ str8 4 combos, sets 9 combos, 2 pr 13 combos, over pairs 12 combos, why blf w/ flsh drw on trn v rvr, prob not blf w/ gs, looks like need over pair or 2 pr+ to call maybe flsh drw w/ gs (s/b call)

[JCFreshwater]

[sgdiesner]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

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Preflop

Assuming full ring, a competent 20bb player might open with [AA-66,AKo-ATo,KQo-KJo,AKs-A5s,KQs-K8s,QJs-Q9s,JTs-J9s,T9s-T8s,98s]. No 3 betting, we want to apply pressure. Either all-in, call or fold.

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The Flop
Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Pot is 5.5BB. The flop is dry. Villain is betting OOP. Could be a continuation range bet. Their premium holdings could be AA, KK, trip Qs, trip 8s, then a lot of Qx holdings (33 combos). So, 51 out of 193 combos, about 25% holdings. In my range I have AA & KK overpairs and just 15 top pair hands of KQo, QTs, Q9s; I do have 12 combos for flush draws and 16 combos for gutshots (3 of which are also flush draws).

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The Turn
Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?
Pot is 12.5BB.
Why is villain checking? If they had a premium hold (over pairs, AQ, sets, two pairs) surely they'd betting to build the pot (checking makes no sense)? Have they a margin made hand or just ace high? They've put into the pot 5.5BB and only have 14.5BB left.

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Turn – Facing The All-in
Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

Pot is now 30BB. Price to call is 11.5BB. I need to win at showdown 28% of the time. What hands have that equity? All the ones I raised with. Call.

[pjvegas]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[Drdnickel]

Button response to LJ open



Button flop response to LJ continuation bet

[andyhowieuk@hotmail.com]

Preflop, at 20bbs, I’m mainly in push/fold mode. As per the charts, I’ll shove 33% of hands, including 22+,A(x), K5(s)+, K/10(o)+,Q8(s)+,Q/10(o)+,J8(s)+, J/10(o), 10/7(s)+,97(s)+,86(s)+,76(s) and 65(s). I can’t call to trap with the top of my range, AA, KK and AK, as I’ll price in the blinds to call. I would 3-bet small (7bbs) my top hands, such as AA and KK, QQ and AK, for value and call off any jam. If I did go with push/fold, it leaves me nowhere to go on the next street, as I have no calling range. To try and balance and give me room to proceed, I added a few calling hands.

On the flop, there will be 5.5bbs (more including antes) in the pot and I have 18 left. This is an SPR of about 2-3:1. At such levels, I will be jamming top pair (any Queen (x), any 2 spades. I will call with any sets or 2 x pair hands, for deception and will fold out any hands which have missed.

On the turn, I will shove any 2 diamonds, or 2 x spades. LJ has shown weakness, but could also be trapping with a hand like QJ, or 9/10. I will shove hands like offsuit K/10, which have blockers to him having a str88 any K or 10, I will have. My 9/10 hand, I will call for deception.

LJ has shown strength throughout, betting on all streets and X-shoving the river. He will either have a top hand, or be triple-barelling. I will call with sets, two pair hands, top pair/top kicker and any str88.

[kkep]

at 20BB we're only going all in PF with roughly 8% of our range.

[jimmahh]

Pre-Flop Strategy

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

It’s close but reckon there’s a 3Bet to 6BB possible here?
Possibly a bit aggressive with a few too many re-raises vs calls?


Flop Strategy

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

6.5BB in the pot, stacks are 18BB – 3:1 stack to pot…


Raise would be all-in


Turn Strategy

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

13.5BB in the pot, stacks of 14.5BB – stack to pot basically 1:1


Bets would be all-in – nothing else really seemed to make sense?

Looking at the next bit of the question; clearly, we’re wrong here…. is the thought that it makes sense to bet very small with everything? Figuring that if he’s going to fold the bet size doesn’t matter so much so risk less, but also, we’re trying to get called by quite a marginal range when we do have a Queen here?


Turn – Part 2 Strategy

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

Ok, this goes quite a different way than we did...
Going to assume that we reached the turn with a reasonable range but chose to bet part of our range large, rather than all of it small.
Going to answer this part of the question from the point of having bet whole range small on the turn and are now facing a 3Bet…

Pot on turn was 13.5BB – we put in 3BB, he raises that to 14.5BB all-in

1 – (11.5 / 11.5 + 19.5) = 63% MDF…. Arghh

Equity to call is 37%? None of the draws can possibly get close to that….


Thinking the Queens are an easy enough call… the 8s through 6s suck… but are needed to avoid getting totally run over?

Can’t help but feel we’ve done something awfully wrong here earlier on =)

Some hope to be taken from the fact that a competent player slowed down and went for a check-raise?
Feels like that removes some of the value hands from his range and it’s more leant towards draws he’s trying to apply maximum pressure with?
That or we’ve really set ourselves up for a kicking somehow =)

[Scotty]

I think your MDF and Equity calculations on the turn shove are incorrect. This is what I get for those:

MDF on River Shove = 1-B/(P+B) = 1-14.5/(15.5+14.5) = 52%. I'm not sure where you got 19.5 for the P in your calculation. I *think* we're supposed to use 14.5 not 11.5 as B, i.e., the full size of V's bet, not just the size of the raise over our bet. I could be wrong about this.

Equity needed to call all in shove = (size of call) / (size of pot after you call) = 11.5 / 41.5 = 28%. Your 9d8d is easily getting more than that even vs. a very tight V range of over-pairs, sets, 2-pairs, AQ, KQ and no bluffs. Your other Xd8d might be getting >28% depending on V's actual x-shove range.

[Mike Humphreys]

I`m checking my whole remaining range by the turn in position with a mix of strong and weak marginal hands, all my stronger hands are gone trying to get the money in by now. A lot of the hands I check the turn with have got outs to improve to a strong made hand that can easily call a river jam or strong enough for me to value bet the river myself.

[Simon B]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?



Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

• At this stack depth we don't want to get blown off our equity so we should take a passive line except for out FD that have no showdown and we would rather get all-in now and clean up our equity.
• Our Ax spades still has some showdown and is drawing to the nuts
• When he bets big on the Flop, he is polarized so we don't get to have much, if any, raising range

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

• 20bb deep I don't think we should ever be folding TP but facing a CR from the PFR our KQ is chopping at best. We can stack off with the rest, as we beat all Qx.

Notes:

[v1rotate]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?




Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

- Removing the hands in green in the above image, I would call with most of my remaining range. AQ is probably the only hand I would consider folding, but I would be willing to draw to a A or K high flush

[cjenk703]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

I want to use a polar strategy and jam w hands that don't play well and 3x 3B with my premium hands.



Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?


Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy? check raise while he had the lead in betting is odd. His turn bluffs could be suited diamonds, ktd and maybe some Ax suited spade hands. Check raise value hands are JJs and maybe 8s so 6 combos. I don't see him making this play with QQ. I think i have the best hand alot with QJ and QT has enough equity for the call

[JimJom]

Question:
In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

A: Against a competent opponent, I want to be 3-betting on the BTN with a strong polarized range. This would include TT+, big suited hands and some weaker hands that aren’t good enough to call preflop (A5s, 87s, T9s, 66)



Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

A: On this flop the LJ has a range advantage and likely the nut advantage too. They could have all the QQ+ type hands which BTN does not. LJ could also conceivably holds a set of 88s. On the BTN my flat calling range contains no sets of QQ and some sets of 88s. For this reason I want to be mostly calling. Hands that I would raise include the premium hands like sets (88), KQs and KQo, and good draws with lots of equity (AK spades/diamonds, A7s/d, KTs/d, JTspades/diamonds)



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

A: This turn is decent for both LJ and BTN ranges, although maybe slightly better for BTN. LJ still has a slight range advantage though and a significant nut advantage as BTN would have likely re-raised with premium hands on the flop.
The turn card hit some of BTNs big card offsuit hands that floated the flop such as AJo, KJo. These hands have therefore improved significantly and BTN should check them down as marginal made hands that want to get to showdown. QJo is now premium 2 pair and should be raised for value. ATo has become a gutshot and could be used as a semi-bluff raise for balance. A8, 99 and 77 are doing worse than before and if possible want to check and get to showdown.




Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

A: Here BTN wants to call with all our QJo two pair combos and call with our ATo combos that do not contain a blocker to either of the flush draws that the opponent might have (ie. call with the two combinations of AT without a blocker and fold with the other 10 combinations that contain blockers)

[Bentley]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?


Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[Scotty]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?



Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Analysis:
POT = 5.5+3.5
EFF-STACK = 18
LJ bets 3.5 => MDF: 61%
Even min-raise would be to 7bb which is > 33% of 18bb therefore any raise should be a shove.

NATURAL BREAKDOWN:


Issues with above:

DRW:PM is 1:1. We prefer 2:1 in this spot.
DF=64% so we can afford to fold more if we want.
6d7d might not be strong enough to shove. We can afford to fold it and still maintain MDF.
The 6 combos of ISD w/out FD or BDFD might not be strong enough to shove, but we can’t fold them and still maintain MDF.
MDF is important in this spot. We do believe LJ could be betting range here.

Therefore, adjust by moving 6d7d to JNK. Keep all ISD as DRW b/c we need them for MDF and we’re short DRW. Move some PM to MM to improve DRW:PM ratio and strengthen X-range.

ADJUSTED STRATEGY:


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Analysis:
POT = 12.5
EFF-STACK = 14.5

NATURAL BREAKDOWN:


Issues with above:

We have no bluffs. We could move some of our Xd8d from MM to DRW to polarize our range a bit and give protection against over-cards to the 8 on the river. If polarized, our bet should be at least 6bb. 6bb is > 33% of 14.5bb, therefore any polarized bet here should be a shove.

Instead, I’m going to bet linear and small (4.5bb) with the natural breakdown above.

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

Analysis:
LJ bets additional 11.5 into a pot that will be 41.5 if I call.
Equity needed to call=28%
MDF=52% (irrelevant for this scenario. I'm assuming LJ is not x-shoving range to exploit my overfold)

Strategy:

Call with entire range (AA, KQ, QQ). My weakest hand is KQo and I’m not folding TP2K getting almost 4:1 pot odds with a hand that beats some of V’s value range.

(BTW, even if I had bet any of my Xd8d, all those hands still have enough equity to call vs. even a very value-heavy range by V, so I would still call range.)

[Mbcohen7]

Assuming a competent player in the LJ, I would expect their range to be something close to this:

I would want to have more equity on the Button to respond, but because I have position, my hand would not need to be premium only. I would probably play with a range like this:

After the flop, with the LJ betting on the Qd-8s-2s, my calling range would be broken up like this.

Here I am calling with all of my moderate made hands and draws and re-raising with all of my premium made hands. Going all-in would only get the LJ to fold all of their weaker hands and call me with hands that are better than mine, so there is no need to go all-in. I am folding all of my suited hands that are clubs and hearts.

After the Jd on the turn, my calling range from the flop would be broken up as follows:

I am checking all of my moderate made hands here but betting to force an all-in on the river with my nut hands (T9). Any diamond and spade draws are making a small bet on this turn.

After my small bet on draw hands, if the LJ goes all-in, I would need 28% equity with my drawing hands to make the call (I would need to call 11.5bbs to win a pot of 41.5bbs)

We can estimate that the LJ's range through the hand may look something like this:

Assuming we would only be getting this far with only spades or diamonds, we would be getting approximately 30% equity with our range against the LJ range, according to Equilab. In the long fun, this is a profitable call.

[HappyUno]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy? MDF = 1-(3.5 / 9) = 61%



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?


Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[KGPoker]

Pre-Flop Strat

[kkep]

KGPoker there are no images. You can and should upload them all within one thread.

[KGPoker]

Flop

[KGPoker]

Turn

[KGPoker]

River

[KGPoker]

kkep Thanks i will do that

[marcos]

Let's get to it!

Preflop I would try to follow this strategy, based on the GTO charts. I just changed A5s to a shove instead of A4 or A3 because I prefer to play it that way:




So we call and he bets the flop, I think my range now has a lot of hands that I consider premium (all top pairs and overpairs), I am counting all the hands with an 8 and the 66 & 55 as marginal made, and I have quite a lot of draws: every hand containing two spades; some gutshots and straight draws (including ATo and KJo when there is one spade). So I would fold only AT and KJ without a spade, as well as 76 except for 7s6s. I think the best option is to call with out whole range here to protect it. Probably my premium hands wouldn't mind protection but I think my range stays more protected if I call with everything, I keep my opponent in range with my best hands as well as my marginal hands, and I am facing a standard Cbet of around 1/2pot that I think allows me to realise my equity in position quite often with my draws. So I fold some junky hands with little equity, but call with all the rest. (Should I actually call with all my ATo and KJo? I am not sure if a backdoor straight draw has much value here, but both hands contain an overcard, maybe enough to continue with those too?)





Ok so I call with the range above and my opponent checks. I kept a strong range with some hands that now have improved: T9s made a straight and J9 made a pair. My opponent's check might mean that I can take the pot now or that he is trapping. The pot now is 13.5bb and my stack is 14.5bb at this point so I'd be more than happy to take it. I think I would choose to bet everything here to again balance my range, because I think my marginal made hands will have to fold on the river if my opponent bets, but I can use them now to take the pot right away. So I elect to bet with my whole range. (I am not sure if this is a good strategy but it's what I think I would do):




So I bet and my opponent goes for the check-raise and puts me all in. Now, if I think my opponent was trying to set up a trap for me check raising a value hand, I would only call with my best hands and I would calculate if I have any draws that can profitably call due to pot odds. Against an opponent that would check raise as a bluff I would have to consider whether or not I call with my marginal made hands. I think I should call with my marginal made hands if I have seen my opponent bluff a fair amount of time. After he check raises the pot will be 31bb and I will have 11.5 in my stack, so I will call with any hand I think can win the pot (including AsTs as a close call where I can make my hand with 12 outs).



I think this would be a good strategy but I would appreciate any comments and points of view as I am not sure if using my whole range to call the flop & to bet after my opponent checks the turn is a balanced strategy given my range.

Thanks!

[pauliethirteen]

[Darameki]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

.





Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

As having position on the villain, I am not going to raise my premium/draw hands to provide additional protection to my checking range. Villain bets 3.5 bb into pot of 6.5 bb. After calling the pot has 13.5 bb leaving me with 14.5 bb behind.

Junk range A7-A5 and A3 of H & C





Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

A7-A5 and A3 of H&C gone from range
76 HC Junk
87 HC Junk




Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

Bet 3bb into a 13.5 bb pot and LJ goes all in. Pot size will be 3 + 13.5 + 14.5 = 31 bb. To call I will need to call 11.5 bb to win 42.5 bb which is 27%.

Need at least 27% to call and as I'm all-in would prefer to have at least 29% equity to make the call.

Strategy:
Call with premium hands
Call with hands containing top pair and flush draw

Need to determine which draws have enough equity to make the call

Flush draw 9 outs out of 44 = 20%. Fold all flush draws with no other potential.

Flush draw plus 3 outer for inside straight or over card to the board 12/44 = 27%. Close but want at least 29% so fold flush draws with only 1 additional card draw for either inside straight or an over card to the board.

Call with all remaining hands that have at least a flush draw + combination of having an over card to the board and inside straight draw. This will provide 34% equity which is greater than my desired 29%

[Christian Kramer]

<< In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Considering my opponents as competent I picked the following GTO (20BB) starting range:





<< Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?
- pot size: 5.5BB
-18BB effective stacksize



<< Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?
-pot size: 12.5 BB
-14.5BB effective stacksize




<< Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?
-pot size: 15.5 BB
-effective stacksize: 11.5 BB

Odds: 11.5 / 27 = 1 / 2.35 = 28.6% equity

[jdadverb]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[Luck]

1 In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?
2 Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

MDF 65% defence
I still call withAA with a As and put those in my calling range
And AJo with AS I put those in my draw/bluf range


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?





Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

Call everything

[Scotty]

Here's a more GTO solution than what I posted previously. I don't think I prefer it, though.

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?




Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?

Analysis:
POT = 5.5+3.5
EFF-STACK = 18
LJ bets 3.5 => MDF: 61%
Even min-raise would be to 7bb which is > 33% of 18bb therefore any raise should be a shove.

NATURAL BREAKDOWN:


Adjustments:

Move 66 from JNK to MM to acheive MDF. (We do believe LJ could be betting range here.)
Move some PM to MM to improve DRW:PM ratio and strengthen X-range.

Adjusted Strategy:



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?


Analysis:
POT = 12.5
EFF-STACK = 14.5

Strategy:





Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

Analysis:
LJ betting additional 11.5 into a pot that will be 41.5 if I call.
Equity needed to call=28%
MDF=52%

Strategy:

Call with entire range (AA, KQo). My weakest hand is KQo and I’m not folding TP2K getting almost 4:1 pot odds with a hand that beats some of V’s value range.

Note: With a different turn strategy, even if I had bet any of my Xd8d, all those hands still have loads of equity vs. even a value-heavy range by V, so I would still call all of them and only fold 66.

[KDC]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?


"If a raise would put in more than 30% of your stack, go all-in instead"





Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?


Following MDF we should continue with at least 65% of our range.

(Not sure if we should have a raising range or use a call/fold strategy?)




Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?


Very wet board - going all-in with top pair and better + combo draws
Checking the other draws (and pairs worse than top pair)




Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?


I'm not sure what hands we could be betting 3bbs with? Maybe the top pairs or marginal made draws (with SDV) to fold out the marginal hands that the villain would c-bet.
Or would the 3bb bet be for value to make the villain call flush draws and then check the river when they miss?

[Nick Dealy]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?




Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?




Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?




Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[CrazyDonkey]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?




Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?



Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?



Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?

[KGPoker]

In a tournament against competent opponents with a 20bb stack, you are on the BTN and the LJ raises to 2bbs. What is your strategy?

Suppose you call and the flop goes heads-up. The flop comes Q♦-8♠-2♠. The LJ bets 3.5bbs. What is your strategy?


Suppose you call. The turn comes the J♦ and the LJ checks. What is your strategy?

Jamming Probably isn't Ideal here because he might just fold out all his junk and call with all his Qx and nutted hands but I feel that this is a okay play here still. Any thoughts ?










Suppose you bet 3bbs and the LJ goes all-in. What is your strategy?