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  • What's my strategy? WSOP Sit n Go's. Play like cash game or factor in ICM??

    Going to play in some of the winner take all Sit n gos they have at the WSOP. I have played plenty of Sit n gos in my day but the ones at the WSOP are winner take all which I have not played in. That being said I understand these Sit n gos are often chopped. Has anyone played in one of these before. If its winner take all I feel like I should play it like more a cash game but if they chop then I should factor in ICM.

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    A few thoughts:

    One, the fields vary tremendously. If you are playing the higher dollar SNGs (like $500 plus), sometimes you literally have two or three bracelet winners at your table. Sometimes you have 9 drunks. You have to vary your game based on the players at the table. And you have the ability to watch a table form to see if you want to play at it. Table selection can be pretty important in the WSOP SNGs if your goal is to build a bankroll to buy into larger tournaments.

    Two, they don't always chop. You should play it with the expectation that you need to be the only one left standing or you get nothing. You can always decide to chop if you have the most chips, but you can't force someone to chop if you are short.

    Third, maybe it exists, but I am not aware of any literature that says to play a SNG "like a cash game." They seem completely different to me. I would play it like a SNG, with the key adjustments being things like playing super tight early, playing in position, avoiding speculative hands, raising big enough when you do play to avoid multiway pots early, targeting very specific players based on their individual flaws and avoiding clashes with the toughest players when you don't have the nuts, opening up your game a lot when you are down to a few players, etc. Just the standard advice you would read in any SNG book. I would think that there should be a huge difference in your VPIP between a standard casino cash game with the ordinary regular casino players, and a SNG at the WSOP.

    Fourth, the higher dollar games have more "play" in them, due to getting more chips and having longer levels. All of the games frequently have "last longers" with everyone participating so you can sometimes make your investment and reward the same in a lower dollar game as the higher dollar games, but the lower ones go much faster and luck is a bigger factor. Of course, you save the rake with the "last longers", but you should consider whether you prefer the higher variance style of the short stacks and quick levels or the slightly lower variance style of the more chips and the slower levels. The chip stack and structure might or might not be more important to your EV than whether there is a rake.

    Fifth, you should also think about the way the game is affected if only part of the table is in a last longer. You need to be aware of who is in the last longer and who isn't, whether you are or aren't. It can make a big difference, for example, on the range someone calls your shove or is willing to shove. Sometimes there will be a heads up last longer for more than the buy-in. You can abuse those guys if they are playing for their last longer but watch for other players trying to abuse you abusing them.

    Good luck.

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    • Danger1916
      Danger1916 commented
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      Thanks for the thoughts. It was Jonathan Little that said play a winner take all like a cash game in his Million Dollar coaching webinar. I really appreciate all that you said. Any more advice on table selection? Are the tables marked per the buy-in?

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    • Danger1916
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      love the dailies. I have won one of those before, though they have changed the format this year. I was just looking into sit n gos there because I have seen them and there will be less variance at a 1 table tourney vs. a MTT. See you there.

  • #4
    Daily? Meh... if the Venetian is running it's Deepstack, play those instead of the daily. Better format, softer fields.

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    • Danger1916
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      Checked it out online looks they are a little more expensive and a little out of my bankroll. But if there were one I should do you have any suggestions?

  • #5
    Originally posted by XBobLove View Post
    Daily? Meh... if the Venetian is running it's Deepstack, play those instead of the daily. Better format, softer fields.

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