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    I noticed in the preflop charts, only in the 100BBs charts does it show what to do vs a 3bet. All the other charts are missing this information. Is it located somewhere else or am I just not seeing it?

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    Don't think it exists yet in the tools, my understanding is with the development of the app there is going to be 4,000+ charts so I assume it would be included there when complete

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    • #3
      I developed my own for the 6max online cash charts based on some research I did, so far been working well but will be making some tweaks to them. At was actually a really useful learning exercise and I'd highly recommend developing your own. I posted an example one on another post but here it is again.

      Basic rules of developing your ranges are:-
      1. decide what your value 4 bet range is
      2. work out your mdf - can defend a bit wide IP and tighter OOP
      3. Use hands that are on the edge of your calling range for your 4 bet bluffs, I went for a 1:1 ratio OOP and slightly more bluffs IP - I also choose to use a mix of hands for board coverage and not just blockers

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dilly View Post
        Don't think it exists yet in the tools, my understanding is with the development of the app there is going to be 4,000+ charts so I assume it would be included there when complete
        Which app is this please? Personally I'd like to see charts for live full-ring cash games.

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        • Dilly
          Dilly commented
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          Search pokercoaching in the apple App Store, don’t think all of the charts are there yet. Cash Game Masterclass has those charts though

        • LondonImp
          LondonImp commented
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          Yeah the app exists, but it's fairly crap to be honest. Incredibly unstable.

          I've heard Mr Little isn't particularly thrilled with the situation having already sunk $100k into it's development...

      • #5
        To answer your question, I have heard numerous times out of JL's mouth and some other pros that down in low to mid stakes poker, facing a 3-bet doesn't happen to much which from my experience is quite true. In the situation I do face a 3-bet I only call or shove with AA or KK. You have to think about it in a way that most players are only going to 3-bet with their best hands and to many player's KT and AJ-AQ is in their range there so you have to think what beats them hands. Hope that helps

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        • #6
          Originally posted by Boyd609 View Post
          In the situation I do face a 3-bet I only call or shove with AA or KK.
          This is a huge leak.

          If you are folding hands as strong as AKs and QQ when facing a 3-bet you will incredibly easy to play against.

          Saying 3-betting doesn't happen at the low to mid stakes is just old fashioned. Sure there are some loose passive fish as always, but even in 10nl (which is considered micro-stakes, not low-stakes) there are loads of fairly strong players who are 3-betting with good strategies.

          In fact, most of us on this forum who play cash are studying our arses off and still playing micro to low stakes poker.

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