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  • Taking Shots

    Since joining PCP in August of last year, I've played 140 hours of live 1/2 and won $6,247. As I've gotten better at taking notes and analyzing hands, I've found a lot of errors, usually at least one realllllllllly bad egregious error every session. So a big part of this is definitely some serious run good, and laying an exploitative beating on some of the opponents who basically have no business at the table. I'm well bank rolled for 1/2, and my original plan was to move up to 2/5 when the bankroll was somewhere between $20K-$30K, but I'm wondering if I should start taking some stabs at it.

    The competitor in me wants to move up, the reasonable strategist in me sees the greater value in staying within a more comfortable bankroll structure and acknowledges that these results are veryyyyy short term and that I can obviously see countless areas where I still have a lotttt of studying to do.

    Obviously there is no correct answer to this, but I'd love to hear others thoughts!

  • #2
    The most important thing if you take shots is you need to have the ability to move back down. Whether you run badly or play badly at higher stakes, as long as you can move back down it's fine. E.g, with $6k... You could just agree that if you ever go below $5k, you only play $1/2 until you grind your way back up

    Most people can't move down in stakes once they've moved up so that's what's hard. But most people who have a $6k bankroll aren't playing $1/$2 so I have a feeling you will be pretty responsible about this.

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    • Dilly
      Dilly commented
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      Yeah that makes sense. Honestly the silliest thing on my mind is because I can only play 2-3 weekends a month, I know I'm going to feel it more than I should if I take a stab and lose 200-400BB at 2/5. Also thinking I might just mix in some shorter 4ish hour 2/5 sessions to start to get a feel for the game without really committing too much

  • #3
    With that winrate you can definitely take stabs at $2/5. I suggest doing it during good hours, Thu-Sun nights or holidays. Just make sure you're able to swallow your pride and move back down on off hours or if you have too many losing sessions, maybe make a stop loss. Shorter sessions a good idea too, make sure you're playing your A-game.

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    • Dilly
      Dilly commented
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      Thanks man. Luckily my schedule kind of only lets me play good hours lol

  • #4
    I read in a book somewhere that when you want to move up and you're not properly rolled for it, buy-in for less than 100bb, buy-in for 60, or so. You'll have enough to play with but it wont kill you if you loose a couple buy-ins.

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    • Dilly
      Dilly commented
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      I don't know if this makes sense for me. Ideally I'd like to always play 100BB+ and have my full "arsenal." I also am not as studied at mid to shallow stacked play. But there's probably a chance that good 2/5 players are better at deepstacked play than me so playing short stacked could limit my exposure in that way. The other thing is I don't just have my profit over the last few months, I've bolstered my bankroll with a little income from my job, so even if my potential win rate at 2/5 is 33% of what it is over the last 140 hours of 1/2, I'm still technically bankrolled well for 2/5. I'm just reluctant to base decisions of such a small sample, and am feeling somewhat averse to the unknown lol.

  • #5
    If you're getting close to the required bankroll anyway, I would set 5 buy-ins aside and just go for it mate.

    Think of it as paying for the experience of playing with better players. If you lose it, just move back down and make a note on where it went wrong so you can study for your next shot. If it goes well then you'll swell your bankroll quickly and hopefully establish yourself at the new level.

    Good luck and let us know how it goes!

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    • Dilly
      Dilly commented
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      Thanks man. I think I might take a shot this weekend if I can get to the casino, Superbowl weekend should be pretty juicy lol

  • #6
    What's the table max and rake compared to 1/2? Find a 500 max game, set aside 4-5 buy ins and table select. Low variance but not nitty tables. Play full buy ins. Short sessions and move down immediately. The main difference will be more 3! and check raising but you should still have 3 or 4 soft seats.

    20-30k would be for 1k max 2/5 and 12k fine for 500max if you readily move down and have a decent job. Playing short will just put on sign on your neck that says I'm a weak player or a nut peddler. GL.

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    • #7
      Update, I played one 5 hour 2/5 session this weekend. Sat down with 100BB, 200BB in my bag to reload if I went below 90BB. I'm suspecting I was at a relatively tough table, and was definitely at a very aggressive table. Very different game from 1/2. Definitely got looked at a certain way because I'm a young guy with glasses who sat down with a notebook and 100BB at a table that had 3 400BB+stacks, basically everyone 200BB+ deep, my $17 standard open also turned some heads and drew some comments. Didn't let the trash talk bother me, and the Gods gave me cards where I had to get in there battling. Ultimately stopped after 5 hours up $205, was feeling the fatigue and decided to end my night playing a few more hours of 1/2 where less thought was needed. Played in some big hands, hopefully will post some hands this week, I have about 90 live cash hands from 1/2 and 2/5 to go through.

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