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    Hello everyone, I just join poker coaching a week ago very excited to start study an improve.
    Jonathan Little said the proper bankroll it’s about 5000 BB, I would like to play to gain more experience in a 1/2 NL cash live at local casino (my goal is to be a profitable player at 2/5 NL cash live).
    my bankroll it’s to small to sits in a 1/2 NL, l’m putting money on the side to increase it but that would take a long time. can I play to try to increase the size of it, if yes were or should just wait until I save enough to 5000 BB.
    Thank you


  • #2
    Those bankroll guidelines are aimed towards professional players with no other income. You need a bankroll that size to prevent going broke during downswings. However if you're working a job and have a stream of income you aren't concerned with going broke.

    I would figure out how much of your income you can put towards your bankroll every week, month etc and stick to it. Go to the casino with at least 3-4 buy ins. Once you reach that 5000bb mark you can quit putting income into your bankroll.

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    • #3
      I would recommend playing as much volume as you can at microstakes, as low as 4NL, to improve your game. 1/2 Live is insanely soft, if you study on Pokercoaching, play 100K hands at microstakes, then start playing live 1/2 with as little as a 1000BB bankroll, you should be fine. Especially if you have a job to supplement and you stay aware that you're under bankrolled and busting is just an unfortunate possibility you have to live with for the time being

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      • Dilly
        Dilly commented
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        Good point, just speaking from my experience, I'm stuck on an unregulated site myself for my online play, not optimal, but I just don't see how you make up for the experience you get from the volume of online

      • MrFuss
        MrFuss commented
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        Same. I play 25NL on Bet Online and only keep about $500 on there. It would suck to lose $500 if it shut down but not a catastrophe. The closest casino is an hour away and there's a $100 betting limit in my state (CO) so even going to the casino isnt optimal.

        What site to you play on? I think Bet Online has he best software of the US facing unregulated sites but it isnt without its problems. There are bots at every stake, sometimes as many as 3-4 on 9max tables. I will only sit down with 1 bot and sometimes 2 if the table is soft enough. They also took away any use for VIP points like 6 months ago and havent replaced the old system which is worrying. At this point its straight theft.

        However even though its unregulated and pretty shady the experience gained is too valuable imo. I've considered trying other sites but they don't seem to be any better and I have huge databases on the BOL players at this point.

      • Dilly
        Dilly commented
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        I've only played on Global, definitely leary of bots and other shady practices, but I don't keep much money on the site at all, and I've been able to cash out a few times when I final tabled MTTs. I've mostly played 4-50NL, most the 50NL was before I started seriously studying though.

    • #4
      Thank you for the response, I would consider playing online.
      not sure which site should I play, what type of games would help me the most to gain experience for the 1/2.
      thank you

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      • 1Peter510
        1Peter510 commented
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        Depends on how much you want to drop on a site. General advice is park no more on a site than you are comfortable losing. You may have limitations in how much you can deposit depending on methods.

        I have money at all 3 (Ignition, Americas Card Room, and Bet Online) so that I can easily keep playing when one is down or if one gets shut down. Also allows me to multi table more than each site's limit.

    • #5
      I think 10-25NL is a pretty accurate representation of 1/2 live and possibly even a little tougher. I've generally heard that online plays about 10x live. So .25/.50 online is comparable to 2/5 live.

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      • #6
        Originally posted by MrFuss View Post
        I think 10-25NL is a pretty accurate representation of 1/2 live and possibly even a little tougher. I've generally heard that online plays about 10x live. So .25/.50 online is comparable to 2/5 live.
        I live in Las Vegas, so I play on WSOP and obviously live. I would say the .01/.02 games on WSOP are the closest representation to 1/2 live and .05/.10 is tougher than 1/2. I have not yet played 2/5 so I have no comparison.

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        • MrFuss
          MrFuss commented
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          I've also heard that WSOP is one of the toughest sites to play although I have no experience.

      • #7
        I don't know if there is an exact or even approximate live-online stake comparison that consistently holds water, just because I've never played any online cash stakes that are as soft as live 1/2. The 1/2 games at Borgata and Parx seem to be unreasonably bad, the decent players being obvious and you can adjust to them or move tables if there's not enough fish, but there's sooooo many fish of all different kinds in the room lol

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        • #8
          I can tell you what I did, you'll have to figure out what works best for you.

          I took $500 USD put it in a bank bought in for $50 at 1/2 cashed out when I got to $200.
          Yes, I know that it isn't 100BB buy-in but I didn't want to go broke.
          once I had 1K, I started buying in for $100 then when I got up to $2500 I started buying in for 200.

          if I lost my original buy-in I was done for the night.

          now my bankroll is 5500 and I allow 3 buyins of 100BB if I lose them I go home, if I get 1K then I go home too.

          I'm sure most people don't agree with this but its what I did and it worked for me.

          that said, I think its best if you put it into its own bank account and not your personal one. once you have 25 or 30 buyins at 2/5 you can take a shot.

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          • #9
            Those bankroll guidelines are aimed towards professional players with no other income. You need a bankroll that size to prevent going broke during downswings. However if you're working a job and have a stream of income you aren't concerned with going broke.

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            • #10
              Originally posted by MrFuss View Post
              Those bankroll guidelines are aimed towards professional players with no other income. You need a bankroll that size to prevent going broke during downswings. However if you're working a job and have a stream of income you aren't concerned with going broke.
              Originally posted by fiools View Post
              Those bankroll guidelines are aimed towards professional players with no other income. You need a bankroll that size to prevent going broke during downswings. However if you're working a job and have a stream of income you aren't concerned with going broke.
              This dudes account is weird. It isn't the first time I've seen him repeat an exact post from another user. Sometimes he will post spammy stuff about a essay writing site too.

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              • #11
                Just saw this in another thread. This account is obv spam.

                Originally posted by fiools View Post
                I knew about the complexities and dangers of loans, but I took it anyway because there was no other way ((I live in another city, rent an apartment, even there was nothing to hand over to a pawnshop except a laptop. Here I could choose the amount and the term, although the terms here and not the biggest in just 30 days. But paid out of the nearest salary. My first experience was not the easiest, but good that I could close. Now I want to check over here, maybe their conditions for issuing short-term loans are much better, don’t you know?

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