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  • jamtay317
    started a topic Interesting Hand against A Splashy 50 year old

    Interesting Hand against A Splashy 50 year old

    I was playing live at a local casino last night. I had been playing for about an hour and playing against the same table for that hour. I had a very tight image as I was card dead for almost that entire hour. Anyways, a player left and I took his seat in the 9 Spot. I had actually played 1 hand before this that I had to fold on the flop.

    Hand Ah5h Stack 220 Position LJ
    There is a BTN straddle for 5 the SB and BB call folds to me in the LJ and I raise to 20. The BTN calls:

    FLOP: 9c3h2s
    I make a pretty standard continuation bet 25, and then the BTN 3Bets to 75. I started thinking about his range and I really didn't see how this could connect with his range very much, there could be some A2s and some A3s, there are some T9-A9(which I would expect to call) now it is possible that he has TT here, and 99, 22, 33 a small part of the time. I can add some bluff in his range something 45s, 56s, A4s, A5s, we can also add 44-88 wanting to get a 9 or a draw to fold. I don't really think that he has 2 overcards here as I would think that he would just call with these.

    What do you do in a scenario like this? what is your folding range? What is your shoving range?


    JUST FYI: I Shoved, he tanked for probably 5 minutes where someone else at the table called time on him, and he folded
    Last edited by jamtay317; 07-04-2019, 11:09 AM.

  • Guido
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    better dont post the result in the future as it can influence answers in a wrong results oriented way

    he seems to have most likely top pair bad kicker (T9, 98, J9) and second likely 44-88 , thirs likely gutshot sd with bdfd

    with overcards, sets etc he doesnt fold

    your move worked out but personally I dont like jamming here as you allow him to play perfectly

    ok you have a wheel gutshort draw and bdfd and an ace might be good but he showed a lot of strength on a dry board and most villians dont plan to fold in those situations

    ok a shove is not a small bet and in a small stakes cash game you might get to fold out more than your fair share of villians with this move but from a game theory perspective it is a bad bluff

    because

    a) you block the hands you want to fold (Ace high)

    b) with A5 on such a dry low card board you have enough showdown value which you shouldnt turn into a bluff often

    c) he has not a lot of bluffs in his flop raising range on this dry low card board


    side note : if you call and hit your wheel you have a very disguised monster hand

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  • BruceO
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    I think many players will raise there with marginal made hands... e.g. middle pairs below 9s and a lot of connected 9s... T9, J9, 98, 97... hands that are ahead of your likely range on most flops and that don’t want to see another card since any card higher than the board is bad for them.

    Those hands also call in position, even against someone who has been tight. By shoving, you are representing a really polarized range...since there are no draws on the board... essentially only TT-AA or a semi-bluff gut shot like you had... the hand range I mentioned would definitely take a long time to fold in such scenario... and your tight image might be deciding factor that got you a fold.

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